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Re: Windows XP mode for Windows 7

James O'Neill — Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:55:16 GMT

Mikey, I'd agree with a lot of what you say. 7 is less resouce hungry and better placed to accomodate XP mode: you're spot on for reasons for it too.

I'd quibble with the assertion that we rushed into doing 7. We said before we shipped vista the next OS would be along in about 3 years and it is 2 years 9 months. We spent the first year of Vista's life finishing the companion server OS, with the associated SP1 for Vista. The Windows team is now turning their thinking to Windows "8" what ever that ends up being called, and we're not rushing into that. It's just the normal product cycle.

Re: Windows XP mode for Windows 7

Mikey — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:58:04 GMT

"what is the fascination with Xp? I can't figure out why a bunch of people who love technology and it's advancement can't let a dinosaur go."

Money and resource management...

If you spent a couple million dollars developing an application that you find out is only compatible with XP wouldn't you be just a little excited about something like this? I think the people you're talking about who have been hanging on to XP for dear life will move on with Win7. Bottom line is Vista's resource management sucked and was a memory hog. Put XP on a machine that's "Vista Ready" and suddenly it’s a horse instead of a slug. Vista was a step in the right direction but far from ready for prime time. Win 7 is ready and the hard core XPers you're talking about know that. I'm one of them. Honestly, how can you honestly say it was ready when MS rushed into development of Windows7 immediately after the release of Vista. Stability is everything and XP was proven. However, I've been using 7Beta and now am using RC. I am happy to see Windows 7 and will be of the first to purchase a copy. I’ve already recommended a migration to Windows 7 within my Gov organization and we will be upgrading our network by the end of 2010. Good job Microsoft. You're back on my good list!

Re: Windows XP mode for Windows 7

ronjdeo — Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:47:23 GMT

good not great

Re: Windows XP mode for Windows 7

Cowbelly — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:41:39 GMT

Great video James! Thanks for walk through.

When is the next update to the Hyper-V PowerShell library?

I use it every day - it's better than cheese!

Re: Windows XP mode for Windows 7

Logo Togo — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:58:40 GMT

Hi Guy,

As I can see either you have stolen progs or you are very rich. If you need very specific SW sometime it is no more compatible and there are SW for 20'000 $ per licence. So please talk from the things you know and not only from the littel island of hackers. If you have also a firm with more than 50'000 users your statement is ridiculous. You are a home user certainly but not a professional.

Have a nice day.

Re: Re: Windows XP mode for Windows 7

Ricochet — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:40:30 GMT

Traditionaly Microsoft Operating Systems take a few years (and a few service packs) to stabalize. Nobody loves unstable technology. And by the way, I wouldn't consider an operating system which is in such wide spread use a dinosaur. Maybe Windows 95 = dinosaur, but not XP.

Re: Re: Windows XP mode for Windows 7

DavidACM — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:35:51 GMT

While I can't speak for others, my "fascination with XP" is because of the gratuitous changes to Windows Explorer and Search that came down the pike with Vista. IMHO they "break" the user experience at least as badly as the "ribbon" breaks Office 2007.

While I can stick with Office 2003 (or use Open Office), I really can't avoid Vista or Win7 if I want to get the best use of my newer hardware and still "live" in Redmond-land. Thus the interest in seeing whether XP Mode will be something that I can jump into whenever I want to do something useful with the file system - my way.

And the "my way" is important to me. I've been using workstations for almost thirty years have have some pretty well developed preferences about where I put files and how I manage them, and don't particularly want to "fix what ain't broke" just to get the benefit of new drivers.

But then I'm an Old Fart.

Re: Re: Re: Windows XP mode for Windows 7

Alan Gilbertson — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:56:28 GMT

This "the Mac is more stable" myth is a myth, I'm afraid. From experience, I see more trouble and expense, on average, fixing a Mac system than a Windows machine when it goes wrong. And Macs do go wrong, often spectacularly, and they're way more awkward to tune up and get performance out of once they build up internal system cruft (it sometimes feels like there are a bazillion of these caches of different kinds that have to be kept cleaned up). The complaints about Apple's tech support are getting louder and louder, too, on the various Apple forums.

The expense of Mac hardware upgrades (what we used to call "a forklift upgrade" -- you bring in a forklift to remove the old system and replace it with a whole new system) is not something I'm willing to live with for my own use. Lovely machines, but a seriously flawed marketing strategy that relegated them to a tiny niche market and still pins them there.

Both Mac OS and Windows suffer from a fixed supposition that "the best UI is a video game." I think their ultimate goal is to animate everything in the UI and have every user interaction accompanied by a sound effect. On balance, the current Mac UI is slightly more offensive than Windows, but they go back and forth.

Re: Re: Windows XP mode for Windows 7

Rafael Lima — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:29:12 GMT

I can see you do not try to use Flash MX2004 - Visual Studio Pro 2003 - InstallShield 5.5 and many other softwares inside Windows Vista or Windows 7. (update all, it's too expensive).

Re: Re: Windows XP mode for Windows 7

Barry Katz — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:13:05 GMT

Legacy applications are the biggest reason. No one wants to pay to re-write a custom application, just too costly and too disruptive to business. Especially when some of the appliction authors are no longer around...

Packaged applications are also a problem.

I have 3 clients who would love to continue to run Outlook 2000...meets the client needs just fine but doesn't work on Vista. Ever try to convince a small business with money problems that they must spend an extra $200 per machine to be able to buy a new PC because of their e-mail... Gets a lot of Mozilla conversions started...

I have a number of small clients[not technology lovers, just money makers] who are 1-4 machine shops and they can't swallow the learning curve to do a new environment and new software...it totally disrupts their business for weeks.

If they can make a working XP mode, I can move a lot of clients to a new, fully supported OS without disrupting their businesses...

Re: Windows XP mode for Windows 7

DaSparks — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:42:29 GMT

looks cool

but just seems like Virtual PC feature not 7. Really you do the same idea with sharing files/folder on the Virtual XE and open them on the host.

I don't know, I wouldn't use this as a major selling poing for windows 7

Re: Windows XP mode for Windows 7

it guy — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:14:29 GMT

what is the facination with Xp? I can't figure out why a bunch of people who love technology and it's advancement can't let a dinasor go.

Re: Re: Re: Windows XP mode for Windows 7

dangrrr — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:46:53 GMT

Not if you are trying to save money. Corporations don't want to pay for 2 OS licenses, a VM platform and an intel-based Mac.

Re: Re: Windows XP mode for Windows 7

laurarami — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:21:31 GMT

??? Why run XP when you have Windows 7 ???

Windows 7 is suppose to be the answer of moving upward away from XP.

Techies are just to playful!

Re: Re: Windows XP mode for Windows 7

zee daxx — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:49:19 GMT

Ya know, you could just get a MAC and run VMware and install XP and get the same result on a system that is more stable.

Re: Windows XP mode for Windows 7

Michael Appleby — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:04:55 GMT

Whilst the seemingly 'integrated' applications is cool (similar to Parallels on the Mac), being able to close down the actual desktop environment visually, is it not still running in the background, a bit of a resource hog me thinks? - depending on what you are virtualising mind you! I just don't see any massive advantages of this over standard Virtual PC 2007 XP virtualisation. I'd have preferred to have seen a variety of operating systems to choose from i.e. Win 98 - 2000 in addition to XP and some actual improvements upon the way that old software is handled!

Re: Windows XP mode for Windows 7

LayKinX — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:41:15 GMT

Everything But the high price:)

Re: Re: Windows XP mode for Windows 7

Fermin Rodriguez — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:28:05 GMT

i support this idea...

if the item can be saved on a host folder.. drag and drop integration should be allowed too.. so i can "save" it whenever i want from just drag and dropping..

this is a great idea for ppl needing xp for older apps (or dos apps..) or even win98 for older DOS apps.. (extreme old)

Re: Windows XP mode for Windows 7

VYP — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:36:48 GMT

To my mind, adding drag and drop support by additional integration will significantly increase user experience among "average" users.

Re: Windows XP mode for Windows 7

Den Trikke — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 10:39:33 GMT

:o)