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Re: Migrating from Windows XP to Windows 7 Beta with Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 Beta

redzone — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:39:44 GMT

I'm unclear on what media he is using in the video to start the whole process? In messing around with MDT2010 it looks like it only creates bootable media, but jeremy runs something from within XP. Am i just making this harder than it needs to be? can anyone outline the steps prior to where this video picks up...

Re: Re: Re: Migrating from Windows XP to Windows 7 Beta with Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 Beta

w7 — Wed, 03 Jun 2009 00:32:16 GMT

In your video you are using MDT ,I have yet to find a step by step of the one in your demo not the command line version but the gui version can you refer me to a step by step please

Re: Migrating from Windows XP to Windows 7 Beta with Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 Beta

Simon Jarvis — Thu, 21 May 2009 06:52:59 GMT

I have repackaged the USMT 4 only into 2 MSI's (one for x86 and other for AMD64) which are out of the Windows AIK install. You can download from http://simonjarvis.customer.netspace.net.au at the bottom of the page there is a link to download.

Re: Re: Migrating from Windows XP to Windows 7 Beta with Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 Beta

exexpat — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:28:04 GMT

(assuming you're speaking about USMT and not MDT) A little of both really. With this as a v4 release, there have been other USMT improvements along the way: support for Volume Shadow Copy (lets you copy an opened file), the migdocs.xml can replace the previous miguser.xml to control what files are migrated (this uses similar logic to Windows Easy Transfer to ensure thoroughness), offline migration and migration from windows.old.

If you are talking about MDT and fully-automated task-sequence-based installations, that started (albeit without the task sequencer and just scripts) in 2003. The task sequencer came in BDD 2007 and produced roughly what is in the video minus the hard-link user state migration - so add about 2 hours to that specific demonstration, but it was still fully unattended. MDT 2010 is the fifth generation of the Business Desktop Deployment solutions, so it has gotten better over time as well.

Re: Migrating from Windows XP to Windows 7 Beta with Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 Beta

rand889 — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 18:35:17 GMT

This seems like it is going to be a great time saver. I'm curious regarding why it took so long for a tool like this which created links to the files instead of copying the file to be created? Were there a lot of technical issues or did it take someone to look at the problem from a different perspective?

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Migrating from Windows XP to Windows 7 Beta with Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 Beta

exexpat — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:11:16 GMT

I agree with you completely. Here is the link to the compendium guide for the USMT standalone solution (the last video I linked to). http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd723609.aspx

It explains in detail how to create the batch file, command line switch updates coming (/offlinewindir becomes /offlinewinold in this scenario with the next release) and changes you would need to do to make it work for x64.

Re: Migrating from Windows XP to Windows 7 Beta with Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 Beta

Jack Zhan — Sat, 18 Apr 2009 14:08:30 GMT

It's realy a good news for Windows XP users.I am using Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3.I think that Windows 7 will be very good.I am looking forward to using Windows 7.
Will my applications run smoothly on Windows 7?I am waiting for the answer.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Migrating from Windows XP to Windows 7 Beta with Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 Beta

Luka — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:21:59 GMT

Thank you, this seems like another good way of doing it.

I'll test them all out, and pick the one that fits our comany the best.. But it would still be nice if future Windows would offer this by default during normal install.. It's ok to spend extra time preparing in office for multiple computer upgrades, but doesn't make sense when a single user (home user) is upgrading. And I'm certain everyone would like such a seamless transition..

Cheers!
Luka

Re: Re: Migrating from Windows XP to Windows 7 Beta with Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 Beta

exexpat — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 01:06:41 GMT

This is a supported scenario in earlier deployment tools. You can use older versions of the Microsoft Deployment Toolkit (or Business Desktop Deployment 2007) along with older versions of USMT to migrate from Windows 2000 to Windows XP.

Re: Migrating from Windows XP to Windows 7 Beta with Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 Beta

MJ — Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:51:17 GMT

I don't suppose there's any way to make this work from or to older OSes? I'm going to be doing roughly 40 upgrades from Win2k to XP in the next few months and it would save a good deal of time.

Re: Re: Re: Migrating from Windows XP to Windows 7 Beta with Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 Beta

HammerMan — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:53:55 GMT

Look Bill,

Although I tend to agree with you in this case, one thing I have learned is that "ALWAYS" is a pretty powerful word. Just because fresh installs are the way that you and I do it, it may not always be the "BEST" approach.

My name is not William

Re: Re: Migrating from Windows XP to Windows 7 Beta with Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 Beta

My Name is Will — Mon, 13 Apr 2009 17:28:14 GMT

It's never a good idea to "upgrade" PCs in a corporate environment. In upgrading you end up creating more support tasks. Fresh install is always the way to go, and in any situation you should be using Imaging as oppossed to upgrading.

My name is William

Re: Re: Re: Migrating from Windows XP to Windows 7 Beta with Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 Beta

exexpat — Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:13:26 GMT

I can almost give you the scenario you are looking for with this video. Granted it takes a little preparation up-front, but migration from the Windows 7 setup-created windows.old directory is super cool:

http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/7/B/67B39EBB-85AD-4B99-AA25-39FFE31DA861/usmtxp.wmv

For a single machine, this probably doesn't make sense, but if you want to install from media to say 5 or more domain-joined machines, this can save you hours of time doing migration.

Re: Re: Migrating from Windows XP to Windows 7 Beta with Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 Beta

Luka — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 17:34:49 GMT

I have just briefly went through the MDT and AIK documentation the other day, but haven't had time to do all the required steps.

After reading comment from Roblegge I have to agree - this user migration scenario should be available as a download-and-run tool. Sure, you'd lose the ability to add Office into the Windows image itself, or auto-installing applications. But it would be great for wide masses.

In fact, if you would run upgrade from Windows 7 DVD, it should offer two ways of upgrading. "Standard" in-place upgrade would be default (but available just for Vista), and advanced options would lead to this user state migration tool.

Imagine just popping in Windows 7 DVD on your home XP computer, it asks if you want upgrade or clean install (format), than you pick upgrade, click advanced, pick user-state-migration, and after 30 minutes you're inside Windows 7, and yet all your personal FILES are at the same place as they were before. You'd just have to reinstall your applications, which is much less time than it takes to backup&restore PERSONAL DATA..

Anyway, I'll take my time between Win7 RC and RTM to test this functionality. I am positive that it is worth the time to prepare at least for a small-office scenarios and beyond.

Oh, and good work on this to everyone involved!

Re: Migrating from Windows XP to Windows 7 Beta with Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 Beta

Roblegge — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:41:01 GMT

Great for Companies with a large IT department. Not so good for smaller organisations and individuals who haven't upgraded to XP. Is there path for them? If not you're ignoring a huge potential market place.

Re: Re: Migrating from Windows XP to Windows 7 Beta with Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 Beta

exexpat — Wed, 01 Apr 2009 23:22:05 GMT

USMT 4.0 is part of the Windows Automated Installation Kit (AIK) and required for this scenario. It can be downloaded here:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=4ad85860-d1f4-42a1-a46c-e039e3d0db5d

Once you install the Windows AIK, USMT bits are located here by default:
C:\Program Files\Windows AIK\Tools\USMT

Microsoft Deployment Toolkit will be able to detect that the Windows AIK is installed and pull the USMT bits it needs when you create your builds. MDT 2010 Beta requires Windows AIK and can be downloaded as a public Beta on Microsoft Connect here: https://connect.microsoft.com/InvitationUse.aspx?ProgramID=1646&InvitationID=MDTB-7XYJ-JH26&SiteID=14

Re: Migrating from Windows XP to Windows 7 Beta with Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 Beta

Hakan — Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:48:08 GMT

Hi Adam,
Regarding documentation:

• USMT 4.0 is required to support Windows 7 Beta deployments. However, only Lite Touch Installation-based deployments are currently supported. Configuration Manager 2007 deployments are not supported.
• USMT version 3.0.1 .msi files are supported to migrate user data during deployment. Use the following steps to install USMT 3.0.1:

Is somewhere USMT 4.0 available for download ?

Regards,

Lukas

Re: Migrating from Windows XP to Windows 7 Beta with Microsoft Deployment Toolkit 2010 Beta

Buddy1958 — Sat, 28 Mar 2009 21:18:07 GMT

You mention the need for another program, in addition to this one, at the end of your presentation. Where exactly is that program available? I have looked where you directed; however, I have not been able to locate it. Please post exactly where it is located for us. Thanks.