Posted By: KryptosKiller | Dec 5th, 2007 @ 12:43 PM
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ye110wbeard
ye110wbeard
I'm Sean - I'm a PC - and I'm ENERGIZED

ERP!

I think I should have said "INexpensive" - ie: cheap, affordable!

Like the "built-in human grammar checker" I should have plugged onto my eyes before hitting that "ADD" button.

Sorry all!

Sean

ye110wbeard
ye110wbeard
I'm Sean - I'm a PC - and I'm ENERGIZED

I thought there was a LITTLE more to Raid 10 than a "Mirrored Stripe" but we used to run those arrays (1+0) on older promise controllers.

We always found them fast and reliable.   The nice bit was you did have to lose two drives and have them be the SAME two drives to be dead in the water.    That was on SBS 2000.

Oh on the newer Intel Raid controllers, you have to adjust the scheduled consistency check tho.  I ran into a site where the stock install (no prompt on setting or changing it) Ran a consistency check on the Raid 5 array weekly.

Nice just that it took two 1/2 days to complete all while the server was live on a 1.4TB array.   Found the docs on the LSI Logic site (They actually make the chipset) and the recommended setting for THAT size of array was once every 12 weeks. 

Boy did THAT ever help on performance... Wink

I think he is saying you'd have to have a drive fail, and the corresponding drive in the mirror set, before you'd lose data.
ye110wbeard
ye110wbeard
I'm Sean - I'm a PC - and I'm ENERGIZED

Ooops... Nope. 

This was a promise Controller.   They just called it Raid 1+0 (Is that 10?  I thought that was closer to a Raid 5 mirrored)

On Raid 1+0 it was a stripe on two drives that was mirrored to another two drives. 

So if you lost a physical drive, it was "Degraded" but the Logical Raid was still alive since you had a "matching stripe" still running.  (3 out of 4 drives)

If you lost a second drive later on that happened to be the mirror of the dead drive you were toast.  But that's what alerting is all about.    But the odds were a little more in your favour.  (You would have to lose the twin to the failed to be dead, you COULD theoretically lose and second drive and NOT be dead in the water, I think I've had that on an older Promise controller at least once)

Of course if it's a pure stripe and you lose a drive, well go call CBL right away.  But NOBODY would ever put critical data on a pure stripe or span right?  Right? (Sorry ... cough.... I've cleaned up consultants who did just that.  SQL database for Great plains no less)

Nope I prefer hardware raid over software ANY time (as long as the vendor doesn't do something stupid and funky like intel used to on earlier mirror controllers for IDE)

Software was a wonderful option when Raid Controllers were expensive.   But nowadays for an SMB when a pretty much stock $150 Intel motherboard will have at least a mirrored controller, and 500 gig drives are inexpensive; I'll opt for a hardware over software anytime.

Please support BAARF: http://www.baarf.com/ and kill every RAID system other than RADI 0, 1 and 10.

Battle Against Any RAID Five.

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